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I haven't seen a list comprised entirely of manga that bills itself as a list considering all comics, regardless of format or country of origin. <BR/><BR/>Could an all-manga list be written out of ignorance as much as an all-superhero list? Sure. Manga's a different case because it's not a genre; I would want to see if the list moves across genres or if it sticks entirely to one particular niche.<BR/><BR/>But here's the thing: generally speaking, the people who take the time to make these lists are pretty well-informed and well-read. That might change based on venue; someone responding to a message board thread asking for posters' picks of the best of the year might toss out a few titles off the top of their head. That's why I'm a little reluctant to consider message board lists, or even Amazon lists.<BR/><BR/>I did see the post by Kleefeld, and I think there's a link to it somewhere in the post. I was partly responding to it in the title to this post. That title also kind of sums up how seriously I take that kind of argument.Dick Hyacinth's Ghosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11199236541341734429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7715773315155138002.post-53850641955812119382008-12-12T18:14:00.000-08:002008-12-12T18:14:00.000-08:00"The reason I don't take all-superhero lists serio..."The reason I don't take all-superhero lists seriously is that they're almost always written from a position of ignorance...If I see any counter-examples of this, I'll be sure to point them out."<BR/><BR/>All-manga lists would probably be a decent counter-example, or at least an example of a similar type of list in a different genre. <BR/><BR/>By the way, Dick, have you seen <A HREF="http://kleefeldoncomics.blogspot.com/2008/12/bollocks-to-best-of.html" REL="nofollow">this post</A> by Sean Kleefeld? I had to respond, because it made me consider why I like lists, and what I get out of it. And it probably also shows why I was annoyed by Lucas's post: I don't think lists are meant to objectively posit what the absolute best comics (and etc.) are, but rather point out the critic's favorites, according to their own personal taste. So the idea that my (or anyone else's) tastes are pretentious because they don't necessarily include someone else's favorites is at least annoying, if not outright insulting. I suppose if you're writing for a "journalistic source of record" you might want to try to develop some expertise in what's out there in order to have a more informed opinion, but it's still an opinion, and of course nobody's going to be able to experience every facet of the medium, so even the greatest "experts" are going to be coming at it from a subjective angle. I'm not sure what Dick's opinion on this whole thing is, but I see his meta-list as less of a scientific determination of the "best" comics but an achievement of as complete a consensus of opinions as possible. It's a pretty fascinating project, and I love seeing how it shapes up.<BR/><BR/>Other notes and comments: Yes, Dick, I blame you for the shitstorm in that Blog@ article, because I followed your link there and started the bitching. So it's all on you.<BR/><BR/>Oh, and Local might get some notice this year because the series reached an end, as well as the hardcover collection coming out. I know I expect to mention it at some point on my list.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13867868039166531163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7715773315155138002.post-8190199500700967252008-12-12T13:53:00.000-08:002008-12-12T13:53:00.000-08:00Sorry, Dick! I hadn't had my coffee when I fle...Sorry, Dick! I hadn't had my coffee when I flew off my handle there! Plus, I've been toying with the idea of making a best of list for my buddy and I was actually going to include both Pax Romana and Penny Arcade on there! lol Seriously, though, I was. It was also going to have Flight or Run, Body World, Never Been, and Love & Rockets vol 1. But now I'm all insecure and stuff! lol My reason for Pax Romana is simply it's my first exposure to Hickman and I liked it. Penny Arcade, because I don't even know. This is why I just e-mail my friend and don't make a blog exposing what an absolute idiot I am! lol<BR/><BR/>Anyway, I'm really sorry. I totally did misinterpret everything you wrote. Thank you for being so cool about it!kennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06649763676628428647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7715773315155138002.post-28771076870750993132008-12-12T11:28:00.000-08:002008-12-12T11:28:00.000-08:00Kenny, I think you misinterpreted some of what I s...Kenny, I think you misinterpreted some of what I said (and it wouldn't be the first time I didn't express myself perfectly clearly here).<BR/><BR/>First, I was actually claiming that the people who hate Grant Morrison with a passion, and would see a list which included his works as too pretentious, are the ones who are more likely to cling to the mediocre comics of their youth. You can certainly like Power Pack and Batman: RIP at the same time, and you can also dislike Grant Morrison and still enjoy all kinds of other worthwhile comics. I'm just saying that the people who would label a list with All Star Superman as overly pretentious aren't going to have many nice things to say about Acme Novelty Library, The Rabbi's Cat, and other non-superhero books.<BR/><BR/>(For the record, I didn't particularly like anything by Morrison from 2008, and he hasn't done anything that I would seriously consider placing among the year's best since Seven Soldiers.)<BR/><BR/>The Hickman/Penny Arcade thing was more like a joke at the expense of some lists I read last year at CBR (IIRC). I really don't like Hickman's work or Penny Arcade, but I know that both will show up on lists made by smart people. My point is, a list like that would probably reveal a narrow perspective. Not necessarily, of course, but I would probably want some evidence to indicate that a person making such a list had actually read more than just Marvel, DC, Image, and Dark Horse. It doesn't make the list less legitimate as a barometer of this hypothetical person's tastes, and it might be of use to readers with similar tastes. But for my purposes, it's not very useful.Dick Hyacinth's Ghosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11199236541341734429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7715773315155138002.post-79356176552758842862008-12-12T11:14:00.000-08:002008-12-12T11:14:00.000-08:00I'll address Lucas first:I'm not sure what your re...I'll address Lucas first:<BR/><BR/>I'm not sure what your reading habits have to do with this argument, honestly. Nobody is criticizing you as a comics reader; we're criticizing something you wrote as a comics blogger. <BR/><BR/>I'm a little surprised that you're embracing this idea of affirmative action for superhero comics, because it admits that superhero comics can't compete on their own when non-experts (ie, writers for mainstream publications) review them. Marvel and DC have way more resources than anyone outside of the traditional book publishers; they should be able to get their books to anyone who they think has a shred of influence. You do, in fact, see a lot of Vertigo books on these lists. I don't know that DC and Vertigo share the same marketing team/strategy when it comes to such things, but they do have equal resources for putting books into people's hands.<BR/><BR/>And last year, when they had a book with wide appeal to put in people's hands (All Star Superman), it did very well; it was the third highest-ranked comic on the 2007 meta list. And #4 was I Shall Destroy All the Civilized Planets, another superhero book (albeit a very different one).<BR/><BR/>I think the evidence indicates that superhero book can compete if enough people think they're worthy of inclusion. If there are fewer such books on this year's lists, I can't help but think it's more a reflection of the quality of 2008 superhero books than a sign of narrow focus or whatever you think the problem is. Since there's no All Star Superman hardcover for this year, I expect the best hope for superhero inclusion comes from The Umbrella Academy. The first All Star Batman collection and one of the new format Watchmen things might have an outside shot.<BR/><BR/>The reason I don't take all-superhero lists seriously is that they're almost always written from a position of ignorance. People who read stuff outside of superhero comics tend to include those comics on their list. Very few people who are legitimately well-read outside this genre will draw from it exclusively when making a years best list. If I see any counter-examples of this, I'll be sure to point them out.<BR/><BR/>Some might counter that a list which fails to include superhero comics is also coming from a position of ignorance, which is potentially true. I do think that it's a lot easier for non-superhero fans to be exposed to superhero comics than vice versa, simply due to the nature of the direct market. But putting that aside, it's not like non-superhero books are their own genre. Where Demented Wented, Bottomless Belly Button, and Alan's War: these three books do not constitute a single genre or sensibility. A lot of people (not necessarily you) think that all alternative comics are variations on Blankets. It's simply not true, and that's why I don't feel bad about lists which don't include superhero comics. From a market perspective, it's the dominant genre; from an aesthetic perspective, it's just one genre among many.Dick Hyacinth's Ghosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11199236541341734429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7715773315155138002.post-34403874443114185702008-12-12T10:50:00.000-08:002008-12-12T10:50:00.000-08:00What the Hell kind of hold does Morrison have over...<I>What the Hell kind of hold does Morrison have over every comic book blogger?</I><BR/><BR/>Back in the '90s, he gave them a legitimate excuse to masturbate. And they've loved him ever since.<BR/><BR/>--King MobAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7715773315155138002.post-43165097917635497462008-12-12T08:29:00.000-08:002008-12-12T08:29:00.000-08:00Wow, talk about painting with a wide brush....So, ...Wow, talk about painting with a wide brush....<BR/><BR/>So, if you think Grant Morrison's more hype than substance, you're automatically a Power Pack fan, huh? <BR/><BR/>Or if you like Hickman and Penny Arcade, you only read superhero books? <BR/><BR/>You're shooting yourself in the foot with such pretentiousness. An intelligent person can like Penny Arcade and Hickman, not like Morrison, and still not like superhero comics, you know. <BR/><BR/>I'm tired of reading articles that insult the reader for not liking Morrison. What the Hell kind of hold does Morrison have over every comic book blogger?kennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06649763676628428647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7715773315155138002.post-24862309179096201242008-12-12T07:14:00.000-08:002008-12-12T07:14:00.000-08:00Hey Dick, thanks for the well thought out, worded ...Hey Dick, thanks for the well thought out, worded and (mostly) respectful comments. I'd like to make a couple points that I hope you'll take to heart.<BR/><BR/>1) I do, in fact, read primarily superhero comics. Being in my position as a writer for Newsarama, that is our primary audience, and such it's what my focus must be. It's also what got me into comics, and I honestly, genuinely enjoy superhero stories.<BR/><BR/>2) I do, however, also read a LOT of non-superhero comics. Whether they're from major publishers like Vertigo, Image, Dark Horse and the like, or from the more traditionally viewed "indie" publishers. It was about two years ago that I started to branch off from just Vertigo and Image and really started to explore things from Top Shelf, AiT/Planet Lar, and Oni, and now even into such as Alternative comics.<BR/>3) My all-time favorite comic writer is probably Damon Hurd. Since I was introduced to his work through My Uncle Jeff, and later A Strange Day, he has remained the top spot for me, even though his output is a bit infrequent.<BR/><BR/>My post was never intending to diminish the quality of any of the books on these lists. Rather, it's more what you started to talk about in this post, that there are so many different tastes of comic readers. I like the idea of celebrating comics as a whole medium, rather than pigeon holing it into one section or another. Statements like this:<BR/><BR/>"You could make it nothing but superhero comics if you want. I mean, I won't take it seriously, but other people might."<BR/><BR/>are really what bug me the most. I guess Heidi was right in a way, and I am kind of seeking a bit of affirmative action for top ten lists. What I'm looking to see, though, is a top ten list that serves to open more people up to the medium of graphic storytelling. Some people are going to jump in specifically because of more personal realistic stories, some are going to jump in because of books featuring characters they're familiar with from their youth or the big movies. Unfortunately, I guess I'm really looking for categorized lists, which is a whole other can of worms, I know.<BR/><BR/>My new column over at Blog@, My Opinion is Right, is meant to be a basic, from the gut rant. It will be derisive and divisive, and I won't lie and say that's not the intention.<BR/><BR/>Basically, what it all comes down to for me is, I love comics. I love superhero books sometimes, I love mainstream non-superhero books sometimes (I was happy to see Fables on New York Magazine's list), I love obscure art-house style books sometimes, too. I want more than anything for more people to recognize comics as a great place for storytelling of all types, and one of the things that will help that happen in my opinion, is for major outlets to give a list that shows how good stories can be told in several genres and with several types of characters, from the tiniest book only publisher to the major monthly serial units.<BR/><BR/>I hope this more rational explanation gives you a better idea of my personal point of view on this. Thanks for reading at all, though!<BR/>-Lucas SiegelUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05108344069007627943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7715773315155138002.post-84386916856117162022008-12-12T07:02:00.000-08:002008-12-12T07:02:00.000-08:00I wish I hadn't clicked that link.I wish I hadn't clicked that link.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7715773315155138002.post-68336213221289080662008-12-12T05:31:00.000-08:002008-12-12T05:31:00.000-08:00Everything that's wrong with the Direct Market in ...Everything that's wrong with the Direct Market in one paragraph:<BR/><BR/>"I'm not sure what Higgins' point is. If he's bemoaning his inability to sell quality works to his customers, I would think this would be more of a self-deprecating statement. You know, "what does it say about me as a salesman that I can't sell comics which the critical consensus rates as the best of the year." Or maybe, "Boy, our customers suck." That kind of thing. Instead, this seems more in line with Lucas Siegel's position that there are too many "pretentious" choices on these lists, that critics don't have their finger on the pulse of what the comics industry is really about, etc., etc."<BR/><BR/>Bravo, Dick. Nicely observed.ADDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14926713718402276984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7715773315155138002.post-49510012235727947772008-12-12T04:07:00.000-08:002008-12-12T04:07:00.000-08:00This makes me glad I disconnected from Blog@'s RSS...This makes me glad I disconnected from Blog@'s RSS feed the second the old crew announced their departure.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7715773315155138002.post-53174757168249899852008-12-11T21:56:00.000-08:002008-12-11T21:56:00.000-08:00That was awesome, dude.That was awesome, dude.Todd C. Murryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00660028880926115772noreply@blogger.com