tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7715773315155138002.post9108000396423758890..comments2024-03-06T01:12:50.627-08:00Comments on Dick Hyacinth's One-stop Hyphen Shop: A meme to watch out for, someone's stepping on my toes, moreDick Hyacinth's Ghosthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11199236541341734429noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7715773315155138002.post-32834053379534302512012-03-19T23:51:18.900-07:002012-03-19T23:51:18.900-07:00This topic was really educational and nicely writt...This topic was really educational and nicely written.Louis Vuitton Outlethttp://www.louis-vuitton-2012.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7715773315155138002.post-60429803087938350712007-02-21T01:36:00.000-08:002007-02-21T01:36:00.000-08:00I thought PoB was good. It wasn't Vaughan's best ...I thought PoB was good. It wasn't Vaughan's best work, and I actually tend to like his stuff: Runaways is fun superhero action with good character bits and the Escapists was really, really good comics.<BR/><BR/>It doesn't belong on any top-ten list, though (PoB, that is).Mr. Ricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03221098688529569487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7715773315155138002.post-25072947792187098722007-02-20T17:35:00.000-08:002007-02-20T17:35:00.000-08:00IMO, Pride is notable for its amazing artwork and ...<A HREF="http://www.loudpoet.com/comics/2006/12/review-pride-of-baghdad.html" REL="nofollow">IMO</A>, Pride is notable for its amazing artwork and intriguing concept. The scripting, though, is the weak link as Vaughan frequently belabors the obvious instead of trusting Henrichon to deliver his message through the images. It's a worthy read, though far from the best work published last year, but if the artwork doesn't appeal to you and you don't like Vaughan, it's safe to say you can skip it altogether.Guy LeCharles Gonzalezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17113334407249093149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7715773315155138002.post-73060345050906698262007-02-20T13:45:00.000-08:002007-02-20T13:45:00.000-08:00Self-denigration will only get you so far, Mr. Bur...Self-denigration will only get you so far, Mr. Burgas.<BR/><BR/>Obviously the publishing house matters--I don't think anyone would dispute that traditional publishers have better connections to the mainstream press and better penetration into places where people go to buy books.<BR/><BR/>As for whether or not I should read PoB: I have a huge, huge backlog of things to read, including a growing stack of manga, a lot of Essentials/Showcase editions I've only poked around at, a copy of Astronauts of the Future I got for Christmas, a bunch of biographical/historical stuff like the Kirby bio and the Legion Companion (yes, I'm a LSH fanboy, kind of), and Clyde Fans Volume 1, which I bought a year and a half ago and still haven't read. So I guess the question should have been phrased, "Should I make time for this graphic novel, given that I don't like the writer, don't like the style of art, and have a bunch of other stuff sitting around collecting dust; is it really that good?" It might sound like a rhetorical question, but I wanted to know if Pride of Baghdad is the sort of book which would make me re-think Vaughan. Sounds like it isn't, so I'll probably try to catch up on all that manga instead.<BR/><BR/>Jones: touche.Dick Hyacinth's Ghosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11199236541341734429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7715773315155138002.post-43934549264119779642007-02-20T13:39:00.000-08:002007-02-20T13:39:00.000-08:00Nah, Greg, I was calling the review "goofball". It...Nah, Greg, I was calling the review "goofball". It's the game, not the playa!<BR/><BR/>And I actually agree that certain themes can bestow a patina of high-brow respectability on works that don't deserve them.<BR/><BR/>Dick: you'll note that my description of <EM>Baghdad</EM> <STRONG>explicitly</STRONG> mentioned the writer. Infer from that what you will.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7715773315155138002.post-5119620887804243632007-02-20T12:46:00.000-08:002007-02-20T12:46:00.000-08:00I love being a goofball. It's fun.My point was no...I love being a goofball. It's fun.<BR/><BR/>My point was not to denigrate Fun Home (and if Mr. Jones had bothered to read my ACTUAL review of it, he'd know I thought it was very good) but to wonder how it ended up on top of Time's book of the year list. I may have been wrong about some things (I can admit it) but I still contend that if it had been published in exactly the same way by AiT/Planet Lar or Oni and not by Houghton Mifflin, Time never would have heard of it. I enjoyed it a lot, but I thought there were several graphic novels better than it was, including Pride of Baghdad.<BR/><BR/>As for that book, it comes down to personal taste, which despite Joe's contention, is really all we can go on. If you don't like Vaughan's writing, you probably won't like it. I think it's certainly better-looking than Fun Home (which, in a comic, is a factor) and I think it makes its point about what it means to be free better than Fun Home makes its point about secrecy ruining relationships. Your opinion may vary. If you have access to it in the library, why wouldn't you read it?<BR/><BR/>Of course, I'm an idiot, so I don't count. Take my opinions with a huge grain of salt!Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13481137891542684401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7715773315155138002.post-57224669337887406092007-02-20T08:27:00.000-08:002007-02-20T08:27:00.000-08:00That description actually sounds like it might be ...That description actually sounds like it might be good if it were describing something done by Tezuka or Trondheim or...well, you get the idea. <BR/><BR/>So is this a "not worth my time" or a "not worth my money" situation? Because I'm fairly certain I could check it out from the library or read it in the cafe section of a chain bookstore or something like that.Dick Hyacinth's Ghosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11199236541341734429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7715773315155138002.post-53789431644944699222007-02-20T00:00:00.000-08:002007-02-20T00:00:00.000-08:00"Is Pride of Baghdad" any good?In Pride of Baghdad..."Is Pride of Baghdad" any good?<BR/><BR/>In <EM>Pride of Baghdad</EM>, Brian K. Vaughn writes an allegorical tale of the invasion of Iraq, featuring anthropomorphic lions escaped from Baghdad zoo.<BR/><BR/>It's <EM>exactly</EM> as good as it sounds.<BR/><BR/>That said, the art is pretty, at least. And I did rather like Vaughn's <EM>Runaways</EM> (if nothing else he's done), especially the first series. He <EM>does</EM> have a knack for the shocking! Final! Page! Cliffhanger!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7715773315155138002.post-57487963787595711672007-02-19T21:38:00.000-08:002007-02-19T21:38:00.000-08:00"The stepchild of tarnation?" That sounds like so..."The stepchild of tarnation?" That sounds like something Ray Smuckles would say, which may or may not be a point in your favor. I'll have to pray on this. (BTW, who better to quote than Wimpy when seeking to express these sentiments?)<BR/><BR/>I was thinking there was more than just those two revies, but I might be wrong. I do remember that one or two other contributors at CSBG chimed in with statements of quasi-agreement. Anyway, I'll try to figure out if I'm actually remembering this correctly or if I'm just aimlessly sowing discord, as per my usual.<BR/><BR/>A couple more points while we're on the subject: (1) I might be grossly misrepresenting him, but I think Nadel is one of the more prominent examples of a critic who swings way in favor of art (he might claim "form") over writing. I can't complain too much since I have similar tendencies, but it certainly does provide context for his review of Fun Home. (2) Is Pride of Baghdad actually any good? I really dislike what I've read by Vaughan, and I'm under the impression that the most extravagant praise for PoB comes from people who actually think his other comics are insightful and well-written. And I'm always leery of lush painted art in comics. Still I'd hate to miss out on a worthwhile comic due to irrelevant prejudices.Dick Hyacinth's Ghosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11199236541341734429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7715773315155138002.post-71479474313378271112007-02-19T17:10:00.000-08:002007-02-19T17:10:00.000-08:00Go ahead and add me. As the title of my blog amply...Go ahead and add me. As the title of my blog amply demonstrates, I'm one pugnacious s.o.b., an ornery polecat, the stepchild of tarnation, etc. etc. etc.<BR/><BR/>BTW, whence the "controversy" over <EM>Fun Home</EM>? Dan Nadel didn't like it, and there was that goofball review on CSBG--"it's only critically acclaimed because she's a lesbian! <EM>Pride of Baghdad</EM> (!) was so much better!" Who else didn't like it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com