tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7715773315155138002.post3218061679216185317..comments2024-03-06T01:12:50.627-08:00Comments on Dick Hyacinth's One-stop Hyphen Shop: More on the only subject that matters: MMA fighters' nicknamesDick Hyacinth's Ghosthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11199236541341734429noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7715773315155138002.post-10738337930319247772012-03-19T23:37:14.501-07:002012-03-19T23:37:14.501-07:00This topic was really educational and nicely writt...This topic was really educational and nicely written.Louis Vuitton Outlethttp://www.louis-vuitton-2012.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7715773315155138002.post-89416205043718575462007-10-17T16:28:00.000-07:002007-10-17T16:28:00.000-07:00Hey now... I think I WILL tell Forrest you said th...Hey now... I think I WILL tell Forrest you said that! Actually, he might think it's pretty funny considering he's such a self-deprecating guy in person.<BR/><BR/>Ok, with the show-offy name-dropping out of the way...<BR/><BR/>I read the original Heidi post and then the comments and at a certain point, the comments really turned me off. Basically, the token "Bone" mentions (see we're not just all about superheroes punching each other!) notwithstanding, it just seemed like angry DC/Marvel fans working that old false dichotomy again.<BR/><BR/>I guess it's a bit frustrating when you consider yourself as liking the "good stuff" and then someone comes along and tells you even that's not quite good enough. I think making an argument for more inclusiveness would've worked but along the way it gets turned into this "high brow vs. middle brow vs. low brow" battle.<BR/><BR/>I put a toe into it to test the waters and got called a moron for my troubles.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17723952510039418615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7715773315155138002.post-5428560282481237472007-10-17T08:08:00.000-07:002007-10-17T08:08:00.000-07:00Ditko Hands-Just putting this in the larger contex...Ditko Hands-Just putting this in the larger context of media fractures. I think both periodicals will probably retain their influence longer than their counterparts, and I don't think either will completely disappear within my lifetime. But I don't think they're immune to this trend either. As far as the "increasingly seen" comment, that does sound kind of weasely. Unfortunately, I don't really have a non-weasely clarification--I know those sentiments are out there, because I read expressions of them pretty frequently. But I can't really point you to anything specific, so you can take that comment as seriously as you think appropriate.<BR/><BR/>Heidi-I know you've never claimed that there's no room for both kinds of comics in the market, and obviously you're not responsible for how other people misappropriate your words to add legitimacy to their own. I don't really have a policy I'm advocating here, just complaining.<BR/><BR/>And I'm not sure why it's surprising that criticism is more popular than journalism for comics in particular. That's just human nature, I would think. Except in pro wrestling fandom, where people are more interested in things like buyrates and pushes than in their actual entertainment (at least that's the way I remember it being).Dick Hyacinth's Ghosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11199236541341734429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7715773315155138002.post-27530021863102316362007-10-16T23:57:00.000-07:002007-10-16T23:57:00.000-07:00>>>>Unfortunately, given the quality of the commen...>>>>Unfortunately, given the quality of the comments in her previous two posts on the subject, I suspect that MacDonald's original essay will long be cited as an argument against any shred of literary or artistic ambition in comics. Stupid generalization fever: catch it! And then stay the fuck away from me.<BR/><BR/>Well, I can't stop stupid people from reading the internet, unfortunately, but no where have I downplayed the need for literary or artistic ambition in comics -- in fact I was calling for more of the former. If more of the blogosphere actually addressed the actual comments I made -- I'm surprised NO ONE has picked up on the European/American dichotomy -- and stopped putting words in my mouth, perhaps the reaction wouldn't be so extreme. <BR/><BR/>At any rate it's telling that no one is interested in journalism, but everyone seems to be a critic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7715773315155138002.post-65618553742738193782007-10-16T23:54:00.000-07:002007-10-16T23:54:00.000-07:00also: kittens, unicorns, care bears, and "Kum Ba Y...also: kittens, unicorns, care bears, and "Kum Ba Ya." Go comix.Leigh Waltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00964802750317393614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7715773315155138002.post-80198813261274473022007-10-16T23:53:00.000-07:002007-10-16T23:53:00.000-07:00I think it, Jog says it. I can't wait for The Maus...I think it, Jog says it. I can't wait for The Mausfather, Part II where Tomine (reluctantly but inevitably) grows into a more vicious version of his father Artie.<BR/><BR/>Dick, thanks for listening. Fundamentally, I'm saying that there are audiences for whom the contents of B.A.C. (and its prominent placement in stores across the country) will absolutely determine the canon of cartoonists worth paying attention to. And there are other audiences who will never see this book and whose canons will be shaped by Blair Butler or Douglas Wolk or Jeph Jacques or Cory Doctorow or whoever.<BR/><BR/>I don't know enough to measure the influence of any of these folks. As publishers, we can just try to reach a diverse range of tastemakers and send each book where it'll do the most good. And hope that bright folks continue to find new platforms from which to speak, and new readers to reach.Leigh Waltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00964802750317393614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7715773315155138002.post-29828783683663971902007-10-16T23:41:00.000-07:002007-10-16T23:41:00.000-07:00Oh, the Li'l Abner connection is priceless. Abner...Oh, the Li'l Abner connection is priceless. Abner needs to get in there with Wanderlei. I think that would be a good fight.Lambohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03870827233422779693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7715773315155138002.post-58804496552426266552007-10-16T23:07:00.000-07:002007-10-16T23:07:00.000-07:00I was the anonymous commenter who wanted the aster...I was the anonymous commenter who wanted the asterisked links, thank you :)<BR/><BR/>"The influence of the Times and the New Yorker are, if anything, in decline; they're increasingly seen either as middle class banalities or stodgy antiques."<BR/><BR/>I think you're projecting your biases here--who is doing this "increasing seeing"? Who once believed that the NYT and the NYer were influential but doesn't anymore, aside from yourself? One could easily argue that they're just as influential as they've always been, especially the NYer--is there even another serious mainstream magazine that prints fiction anymore? And where did Sy Hersh break the Abu Ghraib story? Middle class banalities indeed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7715773315155138002.post-86453461550962886062007-10-16T22:48:00.000-07:002007-10-16T22:48:00.000-07:00That picture never fails to make me laugh. I could...That picture never fails to make me laugh. I could see it on every website I check for a week, and it'll always be just as rich as the first time. It's like... <BR/><BR/>Art's the mob boss, obviously, being seated in the center, with the red mug and the plume of smoke drawing our eyes right to him. He's leaning a bit toward a slightly aloof Sacco, whom I expect is the trusted advisor, perhaps a brother -- literal or figurative -- who'll keep the streets paved, so to speak. In contrast, Tomine is visibly disturbed, and off to the side, away from the table. His youth and his futile proximity marks him as an reluctant heir, a son, his soul revolted by the truth of the matter, but his fate already set in place. Such is Art's gravity. Brown and Seth are the enforcers, obviously! That shirt and cocksure frown/smirk can only mean Chet's the 'rough' one, while the icy, smoking, suited Seth is the sort who'll stand back and repeat the demands slowly into the ear that Chester isn't in the process of sawing off.<BR/><BR/>God, I'd read the <I>fuck</I> out of that comic!Joghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05095286799395371919noreply@blogger.com